Saturday, December 5, 2009

Would the music from a ballet be considered to be programme music?

Copland turned the music from his Ballet 'Rodeo' into a set of orchestral suites are these suites programmatic music as they are written to depict the story from the ballet?



Would the music from a ballet be considered to be programme music?playhouse



yes, music that is written for ballets, operas and even films is considered programmatic - including when they are adapted into concert pieces. See Wikipedia article on this, which has a nice Copland quote about programme music.



EDIT: In reply to subsequent answer: Copland's Rodeo Suite is indeed programmatic. Consisting of the Buckaroo Holiday, the Corral Nocturne, the Honkey-Tonk Interlude,Saturday Night Waltz and Hoedown, Copland uses American folk tunes leaving them far more intact than in most other works, echoing the plot of the ballet (regardless of its adaption to the orchestra, this remains a narrative). Music that is composed to accompany a ballet is programmatic as it is used, by and large, as the aural narrative device (in contrast to the observational device provided by the dance). That is not to say that programmatic music does not or cannot stand alone, Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique is a prime example of this, but that doesn't exclude ballet and other incidental music from this category either.



Would the music from a ballet be considered to be programme music?plays opera theater



I guess so they been so beautiful and all
Yes. Programme music is deriving the music from an idea and thus attmepting to depict that idea, scene, mood, etc.
No, it is not, and it shows a lack of understanding on the part of the previous answers to suggest it is. Programme Music is music written to describe a particular feeling or perhaps book or play (without being incidental music), or even a geographical location. Therefore Tchaikovsky's overtures based on Romeo and Juliet and Hamlet are programme music, his ballets and suites extracted from them do not fall within the generally accepted classification. Copland's suite from Rodeo is that - a ballet suite, it is not intended as programme music. Often, programme music is written as 'symphonic poems' - those of Liszt who like Tchaikovsky used literary themes (Tasso, Hamlet again) or to describe emotions (Ce qu'on entend sur la montagne) and Strauss who perhaps broughthe genre to its peak. He wrote a symphony - Sinfonia Domestica - to describe his life with Mrs Strauss, arguments and all! Smetana wrote geographical programme music, particularly in his suite Ma Vlast or My Country which includes the famous Vltava - the description of Bohemia's most famous river. Beethoven really started the whole thing off with his Pastoral Symphony, although there are earlier examples of music written to describe an external programme. The contemporary of Haydn and Mozart, Karl Ditters von Dittersdorf, for example, wrote a set of symphonies based on Ovid's Metamorphoses. Even earlier, there was a fad for writing music based on battles and the Baroque composer Biber wrote a set of violin sonatas based on the Mysteries of the Rosary. Painting and other visual arts have been another inspiration, particularly to modern composers. The British composer, John McCabe, wrote a piece called The Chagall Windows depicting a series of stained glass by Chagall (I wish I still had a recording - I disposed of mine when I sold my LP collection and it has never reappeared on CD) . Gunter Schuller, a modern German composer wrote 7 Studies on Themes of Paul Klee, including the delightfully named 'Twittering Machine'
Not neccesarily. In order for music to be considered programatic, it must, by itself, reflect a story or at least vividly express emotion.
Yes!!! In Classical Music, there are TWO TYPES:



1. Absolute Music = Music for its own sake



2. Program Music = Music that tells a story



Ballet Music is ALWAYS considered Program Music!!! Dig it!!! - EL Chupacabra -
Yes it can and should be considered to start splitting hairs over it is nonsense. music is there as both an aid to heighten mood, feeling and tension. weather it is in ballet, film or play. it is often written in a programmable manor and as such is considered to be program music. orchestras have preformed the star wars theme music in there performances, both as a bit of fun and to expand the types of music that can be viewed as program music.



It is the job of the conductor to select what music is to be played and they often play new music to broaden the appeal of orchestral music to a new audience. as such like all things music is not static and is subject to the will and whims of those that play it.



and some times they will do it in such a way as to change the emphasis to give the music new meaning.



so in short the answer is yes

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